tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28637516.post7739794425572131671..comments2024-01-20T07:17:13.678-05:00Comments on Phil Wyman's Square No More: Christian Sexuality (Part 7) Homosexuality, Patriarchal Images, and the Order of CreationPastor Philhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28637516.post-11645256115934346902007-04-23T17:42:00.000-04:002007-04-23T17:42:00.000-04:00very well articulated. I guess I struggle with thi...very well articulated. <BR/><BR/>I guess I struggle with this a bit Phil because it seems as though you are saying a non married person cannot fully demonstrate or symbolically and ritually manifest the divine mystery of the masculine and feminine of God or the relationship of God with his church. <BR/><BR/>I also struggle with the issue of gender aside from sexuality - - such as people born with a gender externally that does not match their brain chemistry or hormones.<BR/><BR/>The final reason why I find your essay difficult to accept is that I get a bit nervous when sexuality is so closely tied to gender and the role of living out that symbolism. I think there are ramifications from that that fundamentalism has clasped onto very tightly.<BR/><BR/>having said all that, I think you communicated yourself with eloquence and grace and that is to be commended.<BR/><BR/>I think I'm just more comfortable with Christians saying "this is what I believe the Bible says about it" and end there. There are very far reaching implications of heading down the paths of covenants and ritualistic symbolism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28637516.post-46847296497769984922007-04-19T19:09:00.000-04:002007-04-19T19:09:00.000-04:00I often wonder why we focus so much on one issue o...I often wonder why we focus so much on one issue of fractured sexuality - i could spend hrs just on my own sexual brokeness.<BR/><BR/>Then again what are we prepared to do with our theological positions? If we are who are created in the imagio dei are created therefore to be for the other does that some of us will offer up our own sexual choice/freedom because it is a hetrosexual one to live out life partnerships of a non-sexual nature with those whose orientation seems prohibited to express their nature?<BR/><BR/>Love to me is more than just acceptance it is about active commitment to lay down our own rights and freedoms at our own cost and inconvenience to help others...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15933987855938734565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28637516.post-37906614606753568482007-04-19T12:44:00.000-04:002007-04-19T12:44:00.000-04:00Phil,You have thought this out and worked this out...Phil,<BR/><BR/>You have thought this out and worked this out very well. I am proud to have you as a brother who loves as Jesus would love and who can make such a strong argument not for simple tolerance but for active love and outreach!<BR/><BR/>DaveShiloh Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00516285675816569740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28637516.post-77594025723714938762007-04-19T10:55:00.000-04:002007-04-19T10:55:00.000-04:00Hi Phil,I too am torn in this struggle and your ar...Hi Phil,<BR/>I too am torn in this struggle and your articulated it very well.<BR/>Revolution has a heart to reach the homosexual community, and NOT do it like the church as we know it.<BR/>Thanks for the insight.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14670609970252209273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28637516.post-7583201212749147742007-04-19T09:57:00.000-04:002007-04-19T09:57:00.000-04:00Thanks bro. That's high praise from such an artic...Thanks bro. That's high praise from such an articulate person as yourself.Pastor Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28637516.post-18266712938595445292007-04-19T09:08:00.000-04:002007-04-19T09:08:00.000-04:00Wow, Phil. You articulated this so beautifully. ...Wow, Phil. You articulated this so beautifully. I have struggled to say these same things so many times, and you did it so well.<BR/><BR/>The most important thing in this is something I have said several times before: <STRONG>We cannot expect those who are not following Christ to live by Christ's "rules".</STRONG><BR/><BR/>Your position (which resonates so well with me) strikes the necessary balance between loving people where they are, yet living by conviction and principle in our own lives.<BR/><BR/>Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com