Wednesday, November 07, 2007

Defining Emergent Continues

Scott McKnight, Mark Driscoll's critiques, and now Darrin Patrick have tried to define this still new, always changing motley crew of edgy churchy people. I suppose I am one of the notley crew under some definitions. Anyway check it out at Emergent Village.

9 comments:

Jeff said...

Ha! That's a great cartoon.

Pastor Phil said...

Hey Jeff,

My favorite part is the apples. ;-)

Pam Hogeweide said...

hilarious and homogeneous, love it.

Pastor Phil said...

Hey Pam,

I think the only thing I'm missing is that I'm too old, and I don't have the little square glasses.

Steve Thorne said...

I will never forget when I went to a Pastor's Conference in Edmonds and a Pastor actually interrupted the group and said,

"I'm going to ask the question everyone here is thinking....How do we make this thing lucrative? I want to make money at this!"

I felt the ghost of David Wilkerson screaming ICHABOD!!!! (and I am a liberal!!)

I couldn't believe he would have the lack of class or the blunt honesty to admit that. No one rebuked him and I found the whole thing a bit creepy after that. That was before I saw another Pastor goose his secretary, and another spend the whole meeting drawing cartoons he would pass to his secretary but not show anyone.

Why am I saying this? Change won't happen if it is left to the leaders to bring it in. I learned that that day. I have never attended another leaders group after that. I instead decided to empower the masses. But I have listened to some of the leaders and I think that some have a real mature heart after God. But sorry, some people are just goofy and when they are the ones placed in charge to lead...its no wonder why stuff gets so screwed up.

Pastor Phil said...

and the secretary wasn't his wife? Yikes, these guys need help.

Jake Bouma said...

hilarious cartoon. unfortunately, i don't think i'd fit in because i use wordpress...

Pastor Phil said...

Hey Jake,

Are you kidding?! You might be cooler even.

Pete Aldin said...

Ps Phil, I was going to leave a comment about how I always feel like the guy with the notepad, but it's kinda been said (repeatedly). Obviously struck a cord there.

Our difficulty is always in how to stop a common vision/calling/disenfranchisment becoming a new cool club. Whenever it's a club, I'm not there any more. Makes for a lonely life sometimes. :)